Some TS2020 Quick Drive Consists for the GWR South-west. Page 2

by Marcus Boon


GWR trains often presented a very mixed appearance, with coaches of different diagrams in the same train. It mattered not whether the actual vehicle used was a toplight, bow-ended, clerestory, etc, what mattered primarily was the type of coach (first, third, or brake). The general assumption would be that a 57’ third class corridor coach had eight 3rd, a van/brake third - four 3rd, a composite - four 1st and three 3rd, a brake composite - two 1st and four 3rd.

These Quick Drives try to convey something of the type of trains that could be seen on the GWR during the thirties. They are not exact replicas of specific trains that ran on the GWR on a certain date, but they represent an educated guess, based on available sources and using the many pre-nationalisation coaches available in the sim, of what some GWR trains may have looked like in the mid- to late thirties. They cover mainline expresses from Paddington like the ‘Cornish Riviera’ and the ‘Torbay Express’, but also long-distance stopping trains and some of the most impressive trains on the GWR, the ‘North & West’ expresses. The short-lived 'Torquay Pullman' is also included.

Sources used for train compositions:
  • ‘GWR Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains’ (covering 1929, 1938/39),
  • ‘LMS Passenger Train Marshalling notices’ (covering Western Division Summer 1934, Midland Division Summer 1939),
  • W.S. Becket, Train Formations & Carriage Workings of the Great Western Railway (covering 1931/32),
  • Keith Beck & John Copsey, The Great Western in South Devon (covering 1932).

The Consists are on the Quick Drive Menu under the 'MB GWR SouthWest' loco category.
A Consist will only be listed if all the stock is available for it.
The definition files are in Assets\MarcusB\MB GWR SouthWest.

You will need Falmouth Branch Line (RSC), Castle Pack 02 (DTG),
GWR Star (Skyhook/DTG), GWR Saint (Victory Works/DTG), GWR King (Dovetail at Amazon), GWR 43xx Pack (Digital Traction), GWR Bulldog Pack (Digital Traction),
Mainline Halls Pack (Steam Sounds Supreme) for GWR-liveried Halls,
Digital Traction (Caledonian Works) Caledonian Single for pre-grouping ex-CR coaches,
UKTS 37543: GWR 5051 150th for GWR-liveried Castles. Needed for Shirtbutton tenders
- installs in CastlePack02 as: Early_GWR, GWR_150, Wartime_GWR

From Matrix (DTG Marketplace): GWR Toplight Coaches Pack 01 & 02,
GWR Churchward Panelled Toplight Pack 03 & 04,
GWR High Waist Collett Coaches Pack 01, 02 & 03,Collet Coaches Pack 01 & 02.
LMS P1&P2 LMS Late Coach Pack, LMS P3 Coaches Pack 01, 02, 03 & 04.
From Matrix (SSS): GWR Concertinas Set 3, PullmanK-Steel-PW-Set3, PullmanK-Steel-PW-Set4, PullmanK-WoodPW-Set6

GWR Siphons by Mike Rennie from Trainsim.com. Assets\MikeRennie\MyAddOns
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6.30 pm Paddington-Plymouth

Exeter St. Davids dep. 10.54 pm
Newton Abbot arr. 11.30 pm

   


TS Requirements:
DTG  CastlePack02
DTG  ExeterKingswear
GordonMack  Mt_Colletts_LW
MatrixTrains  MT-Collett-HW-BE
MatrixTrains  MT-Concertina-Set3
MatrixTrains  MT-Toplights-Panel-Set4-GW
RSC  FalmouthBranch
06.30 pm Paddington-Plymouth

The 06.30 pm Paddington was the last service of the day to Plymouth (excepting the overnight sleepers), arriving shortly after midnight. The 6.30 pm to Plymouth ran from Paddington as part of a Bristol service. At Temple Meads a nine-coach diner set for Bristol would be exchanged for a pair of BCK’s that had come down from Birkenhead and Glasgow.


Refs: Becket 67

 
    
Hall
Siphon G			O11	Paddington-Paignton
BCK	Collett HW		E128	Birkenhead-Plymouth
BCK	Collett	Sunshine	E153	Glasgow-Plymouth
BTK (70)Concertina		D43	Paddington-Plymouth
CK (70)	Concertina		E81	Paddington-Plymouth
SK (70) Toplight		C29	Paddington-Plymouth
BTK (70)Toplight		D51	Paddington-Plymouth
9.20 am Exeter-Kingswear

Exeter St. Davids dep 9.20 am
Exeter St. Thomas dep 9.23 am
Exminster dep 9.30 am
Starcross dep 9.37 am
Dawlish Warren dep 9.42 am
Dawlish dep 9.46 am
Teignmouth dep 9.54 am
Newton Abbot arr 10.03 am
Newton Abbot dep 10.12 am
Torquay arr 10.22 am
Paignton arr 10.30 am
Kingswear arr 10.54 am

   


TS Requirements:
DT  DT_GWR_43xx
GordonMack  WRJL_Coaches
MatrixTrains  MT-Toplights Set1
MatrixTrains  MT-Toplights Set2
MatrixTrains  MT-Toplights-Panel-Set3-GW
09.20 am Exeter-Kingswear

Inspired by a 1930 photograph in ‘Great Western Steam in Devon (Bradford Barton) of a four coach stopper at Dawlish, one of the many unsung (and not very well documented) local trains of the GWR.


Refs: Becket 13

 
    
43xx
TK	Toplight		C35	Exeter-Kingswear
BTK	Toplight		D47	Exeter-Kingswear
CK	Toplight		E98	Exeter-Kingswear
TK	Clerestory		C8	Exeter-Kingswear
10.10 pm Paddington-Penzance (postal)

Exeter St. Davids dep 2.46 am
Newton Abbot arr 3.26 am
Newton Abbot dep 3.37 am

   


TS Requirements:
DTG  CastlePack02
DTG  ExeterKingswear
MatrixTrains  MT-Collett-HW-BE-Set2
MikeRennie  MyAddOns
VictoryWorks  GWRSaint
10.10 pm Paddington-Penzance (postal)

A nighttime run with the West of England Postal along the sea wall between Exeter and Newton Abbot. Historically, the West of England Postal had mail coaches with collection equipment on the left hand side or on the right hand side (and sometimes both), as the train could not be turned at Penzance. The Siphons carried the mail that had already been sorted in London, with vehicles dropped at Taunton, Exeter, and Plymouth. With only one type of GWR mail coach available (L21) the train is a compromise.


Refs: Becket 70, GWR 1938-9 11

 
    
Castle
Siphon G			O33	Paddington-Penzance
TPO	Collett			L21	Paddington-Penzance (L23 net both sides)
TPO	Collett			L21	Paddington-Penzance (L21 net)
TPO	Collett			l21	Paddington-Penzance (L18 net)
TPO	Collett			L21	Paddington-Penzance (L13 net)
TPO	Collett			L25	Paddington-Penzance (L14 no net)
TPO	Collett			K40	Paddington-Penzance
Siphon G			O11	Paddington-Plymouth
10.12 am Bradford-Kingswear 'Devonian'

Exeter St. Davids dep 5.48 pm
Newton Abbot arr 6.38 pm
Torquay arr 7.01 pm
Paignton arr 7.10 pm
Kingswear arr 7.33 pm

   


TS Requirements:
DTG  CastlePack02
GordonMack  Mt_Colletts_LW
GordonMack  Mt_Colletts_LW-Set2
MatrixTrains  MT-Collett-HW-BE
MatrixTrains  MT-Concertina-Set3
MatrixTrains  MT-LMS-P1-P2-LATE
MatrixTrains  MT-Toplights-Panel-Set4-GW
MatrixTrains  Mt-P3-Set3
MatrixTrains  Mt-P3-Set4
10.12 am Bradford-Kingswear 'Devonian'

The ‘Torbay Express’ and the ‘Devonian’ were the two premier services to Torbay. During the thirties the southbound ‘Devonian’ appeared in many guises, this is how the train may well have appeared during the late thirties. Some years the southbound ‘Devonian’ had two coaches added at Bristol, this is represented here, otherwise it was the same set that had worked the northbound train (9.05 am Kingswear) the previous day. The LMS considered the ‘Devonian’ important enough to roster the only three-coach LMS restaurant set to operate to Devon.


Refs: LMS Midland 1939 13, GWR 1938-9 43, Becket 113, GW in S Devon

 
    
Castle
BTK(70)Toplight			D51	Bristol-Kingswear
CK(70)	Concertina		E81	Bristol-Kingswear
BTK	Collett	Sunshine	D124	Bradford-Kingswear	
CK	Collett	Sunshine	E154	Bradford-Kingswear	
FO	LMS	P3		1902	Bradford-Kingswear
K	LMS	P3		1912	Bradford-Kingswear
TO	LMS	P2		1807	Bradford-Kingswear
TK	Collett	HW		C54	Bradford-Kingswear
BTK	Collett	HW		D94	Bradford-Kingswear
11.00 am (MFO) Paddington-Paignton 'Torquay Pullman'

Exeter St. Davids through 1.55.pm
Newton Abbot arr. 2.20 pm
Newton Abbot dep. 2.25 pm
Torquay arr. 2.40 pm
Paignton arr. 2.50 pm

   


TS Requirements:
RSC  KingPack01
MatrixTrains  MT-PullmanK-Steel-PW-Set4 =SSS Pack 4
MatrixTrains  MT-PullmanK-WoodPW-Set4   =SSS Pack 6
MatrixTrains  MT-PullmanK-Steel-PW-Set3 =SSS Pack 3
11.00 am (MFO) Paddington-Paignton 'Torquay Pullman'

In July 1929 the GWR and the Pullman Company introduced the ‘Torquay Pullman’ from Paddington to Paignton, running on Mondays and Fridays. Due to lack of patronage the service lasted only a year and was withdrawn at the end of the 1930 summer timetable. Except for the brake parlours (which in reality were 1921 12-wheelers) the train is formed of ‘K’ coaches as was historically the case, although purists may note that in 1929 the fascia boards above the windows were stll (just) Ivory white…



 
    
King
Brake Parlour	K all-steel	77	Paddington-Paignton
Third Kitchen	K		59	Paddington-Paignton
Third Parlour	K		34	Paddington-Paignton
First Parlour	K all-steel	Eunice	Paddington-Paignton
First Kitchen	K all-steel	Ione	Paddington-Paignton
Third Parlour	K		35	Paddington-Paignton
Third Kitchen	K		61	Paddington-Paignton
Brake Parlour	K all-steel	80	Paddington-Paignton
11.10 am Penzance-Paddington

Newton Abbot dep 2.48 pm Exeter St. Davids arr 3.21

   


TS Requirements:
DTG  CastlePack02
GordonMack  MT-Gresley_Teaks_Set2
GordonMack  Mt_Colletts_LW-Set2
MatrixTrains  MT-Collett-HW-BE
MatrixTrains  MT-Concertina-Set3
MatrixTrains  MT-Toplights-Panel-Set4-GW

11.10 am Penzance-Paddington

GWR 70 footers were extensively used on the West of England mainline, and the 11.20 am from Penzance was no exception, apart from the coach from Newquay and the LNER through coach from Penzance to Edinburgh. With no Churchward 70’ restaurant car available today a Collett RC has to be substituted.


Refs: Becket 13

 
    
Castle
BTK (70)	Toplight	D51	Kingswear-Paddington
CK (70)		Toplight	E93	Kingswear-Paddington
BTK (70)	Toplight	D51	Kingswear-Paddington
BCK 	Collett	High-waisted	E128	Newquay-Paddington
BTK (70)	Concertina	D43	Penzance-Paddington
RC (70)		Sunshine	H57	Penzance-Paddington
CK (70)		Concertina	E79	Penzance-Paddington
TK (70)		Concertina	C27	Penzance-Paddington
BTK (70)	Concertina	D43	Penzance-Paddington
BCK	LNER			143	Penzance-Edinburgh
12.10 pm Penzance-Crewe

Newton Abbot dep 4.48 pm Exeter St. Davids arr 5.15.pm

   


TS Requirements:
DTG  ExeterKingswear
GordonMack  LMS_P3_Set1
GordonMack  Mt_Colletts_LW
MatrixTrains  MT-Collett-HW-BE
MatrixTrains  MT-Collett-HW-BE-Set2
MatrixTrains  MT-Concertina-Set3
MatrixTrains  MT-LMS-P1-P2-LATE
VictoryWorks  GWRSaint
12.10 pm Penzance-Crewe

Arriving at Crewe just before midnight, the heavy 12.10 from Penzance brought through coaches from the West for the overnight trains to Scotland and the North.


Refs: Becket 108, GWR 1938-9 48

 
    
Castle
TPO	Collett			L21	Plymouth-Bristol
TK (70)	Concertina		C27	Plymouth-Bristol
BCK	Collett	HW		E128	Penzance-Liverpool
Siphon G			O11	Penzance-Liverpool
BG 	LMS	P1		1778	Penzance-Manchester
CK	LMS	P3		1925	Penzance-Manchester
BTK	LMS	P3		1905	Penzance-Manchester
BCK	Collett	Sunshine	E153	Penzance-Glasgow
Siphon G			O33	Penzance-Leeds
BG	Collett			K40	Penzance-Sheffield
1.30 pm (SO) Paddington-Kingswear

Exeter St. Davids dep. 5.10 pm
Newton Abbot arr. 5.50 pm
Newton Abbot dep. 5.55 pm
Torquay arr. 6.07 pm
Paignton arr. 6.17 pm
Kingswear arr. 6.35 pm

   


TS Requirements:
GordonMack  Mt_Colletts_LW-Set2
GordonMack  WRJL_Coaches
MatrixTrains  MT-Collett-HW-BE
MatrixTrains  MT-Concertina-Set3
MatrixTrains  MT-Toplights Set1
MatrixTrains  MT-Toplights-Panel-Set3-GW
MatrixTrains  MT-Toplights-Panel-Set4-GW
VictoryWorks  GWRSaint
1.30 pm (SO) Paddington-Kingswear

One of the summer Saturdays-only extra's to the West Country, formed of whatever stock was available, so that even an old Dean clerestory would find employment.


Refs: GWR 1938-9 5

 
    
Saint
TK	Toplight		C31	Paddington-Kingswear
TK	Clerestory		C8	Paddington-Kingswear
CK (70)	Toplight		E93	Paddington-Kingswear
BTK (70)Concertina		D43	Paddington-Kingswear
RC	Sunshine		H57	Paddington-Paignton
TK	Toplight		C35	Paddington-Paignton
TK	HW			C54	Paddington-Paignton
BCK	Toplight		E95	Paddington-Paignton
1.30 pm Penzance-Paddington

Newton Abbot dep. 5.05 pm
Exeter St. Davids arr. 5.33 pm

   


TS Requirements:
DTG  CastlePack02
DTG  ExeterKingswear
GordonMack  Mt_Colletts_LW-Set2
MatrixTrains  MT-Collett-HW-BE-Set2
MatrixTrains  MT-Concertina-Set3
MatrixTrains  MT-Toplights Set2
MatrixTrains  MT-Toplights-Panel-Set4-GW
MikeRennie  MyAddOns
RSC  FalmouthBranch
1.30 pm Penzance-Paddington

The last train of the day from Penzance, arriving in London at 9.00 pm, giving passengers time to get home. The Underground ceased running soon after 10.00 pm…. The Kingsbridge vans attached at Brent probably conveyed rabbits for the Midlands.


Refs: GWR 1938-9 18

 
    
Hall
Siphon G			O11	Penzance-Leeds
BG				K22	Kingsbridge-LMS
Siphon G			O33	Kingsbridge-Birmingham
BG				K40	Penzance-Birmingham
BTK (70)Concertina		D43	Penzance-Paddington
CK (70)	Toplight		E93	Penzance-Paddington
BTK (70)Toplight		D51	Penzance-Paddington
RC	Sunshine		H57	Plymouth-Paddington
BTK (70)Toplight		D51	Paignton-Paddington
CK (70)	Concertina		E79	Paignton-Paddington
2.20 pm (SO) Paignton-Leeds doubleheaded 'Bulldog' + 43xx

Paignton dep 2.20 pm
Newton Abbot arr. 2.48 pm
Newton Abbot dep. 2.55 pm
Exeter St. Davids arr. 3.21 pm

   


TS Requirements:
DT  DT_CR 123
DT  DT_GWR_43xx
DT  DT_GWR_Bulldog
GordonMack  LMS_P3_Set2
MatrixTrains  MT-LMS-P1-P2-LATE
2.20 pm (SO) Paignton-Leeds

The 2.20 pm to Leeds was one of the many summer Saturday extra’s that linked Torbay with the industrial cities of the North. Consisting of 12 LMS coaches (mostly older types, with a few pre-grouping coaches thrown in) that had come down from Bradford early on Saturday morning and doubleheaded by whatever engines the GWR could spare.


Refs: LMS Midland 1939 21

 
    
'Bulldog’+ 43xx
BTK	LMS	P1		1695	Paignton-Leeds
TO	LMS	P1		1692	Paignton-Leeds
TK	LMS	CR		124	Paignton-Leeds
TO	LMS	P1		1692	Paignton-Leeds
CK	LMS	P1		1694	Paignton-Leeds
CK	LMS	CR		112B	Paignton-Leeds
TK	LMS	P3		1899	Paignton-Leeds
TO	LMS	P1		1692	Paignton-Leeds
BTK	LMS	P2		1730	Paignton-Leeds
TO	LMS	P2		1807	Paignton-Leeds
CK	LMS	P1		1694	Paignton-Leeds
BTK	LMS	P1		1695	Paignton-Leeds
2.20 pm (SO) Paignton-Leeds doubleheaded Hall + Saint

Paignton dep 2.20 pm
Newton Abbot arr. 2.48 pm
Newton Abbot dep. 2.55 pm
Exeter St. Davids arr. 3.21 pm

   


TS Requirements:
DT  DT_CR 123
DTG  CastlePack02
GordonMack  LMS_P3_Set2
MatrixTrains  MT-LMS-P1-P2-LATE
RSC  FalmouthBranch
VictoryWorks  GWRSaint
2.20 pm (SO) Paignton-Leeds

The 2.20 pm to Leeds was one of the many summer Saturday extra’s that linked Torbay with the industrial cities of the North. Consisting of 12 LMS coaches (mostly older types, with a few pre-grouping coaches thrown in) that had come down from Bradford early on Saturday morning and doubleheaded by whatever engines the GWR could spare.


Refs: LMS Midland 1939 21

 
    
Hall + Saint
BTK	LMS	P1		1695	Paignton-Leeds
TO	LMS	P1		1692	Paignton-Leeds
TK	LMS	CR		124	Paignton-Leeds
TO	LMS	P1		1692	Paignton-Leeds
CK	LMS	P1		1694	Paignton-Leeds
CK	LMS	CR		112B	Paignton-Leeds
TK	LMS	P3		1899	Paignton-Leeds
TO	LMS	P1		1692	Paignton-Leeds
BTK	LMS	P2		1730	Paignton-Leeds
TO	LMS	P2		1807	Paignton-Leeds
CK	LMS	P1		1694	Paignton-Leeds
BTK	LMS	P1		1695	Paignton-Leeds


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