Some TS2020 Quick Drive Consists for the GWR South-west. Page 1

by Marcus Boon


GWR trains often presented a very mixed appearance, with coaches of different diagrams in the same train. What mattered primarily was the type of coach (first, third, or brake). The general assumption would be that a 57’ third class corridor coach had eight 3rd, a van/brake third - four 3rd, a composite - four 1st and three 3rd, a brake composite - two 1st and four 3rd. It mattered not whether the actual vehicle used was a toplight, bow-ended, clerestory, etc.

These Quick Drives try to convey something of the type of trains that could be seen on the GWR. They are not exact replicas of specific trains that ran on the GWR on a certain date, but they represent an educated guess, based on available sources and using the many pre-nationalisation coaches available in the sim, of what some GWR trains may have looked like in the mid- to late thirties. They cover mainline expresses from Paddington like the ‘Cornish Riviera’ and the ‘Torbay Express’, but also long-distance stopping trains and some of the most impressive trains on the GWR, the ‘North & West’ expresses.

Sources used for train compositions:
  • ‘GWR Programme of Working of Coaches in Through Trains’ (covering 1929, 1938/39),
  • ‘LMS Passenger Train Marshalling notices’ (covering 1934),
  • W.S. Becket, Train Formations & Carriage Workings of the Great Western Railway (covering 1931/32),
  • Keith Beck & John Copsey, The Great Western in South Devon (covering 1932).


The Consists are on the Quick Drive Menu under the 'MB GWR SouthWest' loco category.
A Consist will only be listed if all the stock is available for it.
The definition files are in Assets\MarcusB\MB GWR SouthWest.

You will need Falmouth Branch Line (RSC), Castle Pack 02 (DTG),
GWR Star (Skyhook/DTG), GWR Saint (Victory Works/DTG), GWR King (Dovetail at Amazon),
Mainline Halls Pack (Steam Sounds Supreme) for GWR-liveried Halls,

UKTS 37543: GWR 5051 150th for GWR-liveried Castles. Needed for Shirtbutton tenders
- installs in CastlePack02 as: Early_GWR, GWR_150, Wartime_GWR

Also from Matrix (DTG Marketplace): GWR Toplight Coaches Pack 01 & 02,
GWR Churchward Panelled Toplight Pack 03 & 04,
GWR High Waist Collett Coaches Pack 01, 02 & 03,
Collet Coaches Pack 01 & 02.
LMS P1&P2 LMS Late Coach Pack, LMS P3 Coaches Pack 01, 02, 03 & 04.
GWR Concertinas (SSS)

GWR Siphons by Mike Rennie from Trainsim.com. Assets\MikeRennie\MyAddOns




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02.35am Shrewsbury-Penzance.

Dep. Exeter 8.40am,
Arr. Newton Abbot 9.08am.

TS Requirements:
GordonMack\LMS_P3_Set1              TS Marketplace: LMS P3 Coaches Pack 01
GordonMack\Mt_Colletts_LW           TS Marketplace: Collet Coaches Pack 01
MatrixTrains\MT-Collett-HW-BE-Set2  TS Marketplace: GWR High Waist Collett Coaches Pack 02
MatrixTrains\MT-LMS-P1-P2-LATE      TS Marketplace: LMS P1&P2 LMS Late Coach Pack
MatrixTrains\MT-Toplights Set2      TS Marketplace: GWR Toplight Coaches Pack 02
MatrixTrains\Mt-P3-Set3             TS Marketplace: LMS P3 Coaches Pack 03
VictoryWorks\GWRSaint

Consist dns GWR MB 0235am Shrewsbury-Penzance.bin
 Fragment GWR LOCO Castle SButt.xml
 Fragment GWR COAC MB 0235am Shrewsbury-Penzance.xml

02.35am Shrewsbury-Penzance

The 02.35 ex Shrewsbury was the West of England section of the heavy 14-coach 01.25 Crewe-Cardiff that was detached at Shrewsbury.

This train carried mail and parcels for the West and conveyed:
  • 1 GWR TPO from Bristol
  • 1 GWR BG from Shrewsbury for Plymouth
  • 1 GWR BCK for Penzance that had left Glasgow Central on the 5.30 pm Euston express
  • 3 coach LMS portion from Liverpool Lime Street
  • 4 coach LMS section (including a GWR BG) from Manchester London Road

Refs: Becket 98, GWR 1938-9 42, LMS/W 1934 30, Beck 66

Castle
TPO Collett           L21   Bristol-Plymouth
BG  Collett HW        K40   Shrewsbury-Plymouth
BCK Collett Sunshine  E153  Glasgow-Penzance
BTK LMS	P2            1730  Liverpool-Penzance
CK  LMS	P1            1694  Liverpool-Penzance
BG  LMS	P1            1778  Liverpool-Penzance
BTK LMS P3            1905  Manchester-Penzance
CK  LMS P3            1925  Manchester-Penzance
BG  LMS	P3            2007  Manchester-Penzance
BG  Toplight          K22   Manchester-Penzance


05.30 a.m. Paddington - Penzance

Exeter			dep	10.50 am
Newton Abbot  	arr	11.22 am

TS Requirements:





05.30 a.m. Paddington - Penzance

A heavy early morning mail, parcels and newspaper train from London to the West Country that ran via Bristol.
Leaving Paddington the 05.30 with fourteen coaches of which only four were for the use of the travelling public.
On its way to the West various vans and coaches were added and detached,br> so that from Exeter the train consisted of:
  • 3 parcels and newspaper vans for Penzance (from York and Leeds)
  • 2 parcels vans for Plymouth (from Paddington)
  • 1 newspaper van for Kingswear (from Paddington)
  • 4 70’ coaches for Penzance (from Paddington)

  • Refs: Becket 56, Beck 57

    Star
    BG       Collett	HW	K40	York-Penzance
    BG       Toplight	K22	York-Penzance
    Siphon G inside framed	O33	Leeds-Penzance
    BTK (70) Concertina	D43	Paddington-Penzance
    TK (70)  Concertina	C27	Paddington-Penzance
    CK (70)  Concertina	E79	Paddington-Penzance
    BTK (70) Toplight	D51	Paddington-Penzance
    Van (70) Toplight	M11	Paddington-Plymouth
    Siphon G outside framed	O11	Paddington-Plymouth
    BG (News) Collett	HW	K40	Paddington-Kingswear
    
    
    
    07.07am Kingswear-Swansea.

    Dep. Newton Abbot 8.5am,
    Arr. Exeter 8.50am.

    TS Requirements:
    VictoryWorks  GWRSaint  Saint
    MatrixTrains\MT-Collett-HW-BE       TS Marketplace: GWR High Waist Collett Coaches Pack 01
    MatrixTrains\MT-Collett-HW-BE-Set2  TS Marketplace: GWR High Waist Collett Coaches Pack 02
    MatrixTrains\MT-Toplights Set1      TS Marketplace: GWR Toplight Coaches Pack 01
    MatrixTrains\MT-Toplights Set2      TS Marketplace: GWR Toplight Coaches Pack 02
    MatrixTrains\MT-Toplights-Panel-Set3-GW  TS Marketplace: GWR Churchward Panelled Toplights Pack 03
    
    Consist dns GWR MB 0707 am Kingswear-Swansea.bin
    Fragment GWR LOCO Saint Era3 3500 smooth.xml
    Fragment GWR COAC MB 0707 am Kingswear-Swansea.xml

    07.07am Kingswear-Swansea.

    A typical GWR cross-country stopping train, providing a connection from the Torbay area to South Wales
    It ran as a stopping train from Taunton, arriving at Swansea almost eight hours after leaving Kingswear, at 2.58 pm.
    This train was made up of a standard GWR 3-coach and 4-coach formation

    Refs: Becket 98, Beck 120

    Saint
    BTK	Toplight         D56	Kingswear-Bristol
    CK	Toplight         E98	Kingswear-Bristol
    BTK	Collett HW       D94	Kingswear-Bristol
    BTK	Toplight (early) D47	Kingswear-Swansea
    TK	Collett HW       C54	Kingswear-Swansea
    CK	Collett HW       E132	Kingswear-Swansea
    BTK	Collett HW       D95	Kingswear-Swansea
    
    08.45am Plymouth-Liverpool (Lime Street)/Manchester (London Road).

    Paignton          dep	9.15 am
    Torquay           dep	9.22 am
    Newton Abbot      dep	9.48 am
    Teignmouth        dep	9.59 am
    Dawlish           dep	10.08 am
    Exeter St. Davids arr	10.25 am
    
    
    TS Requirements:
    RSC  FalmouthBranch  Hall\4965 Rood Ashton Hall\Engine\Hall Engine.xml  -SSS
    DTG  CastlePack02    Castle\GWR_150\Tender\Castle Collett Tender.xml
    UKTS 37543 for tender
    GordonMack\LMS_P3_Set1         TS Marketplace: LMS P3 Coaches Pack 01
    GordonMack\Mt_Colletts_LW      TS Marketplace: Collet Coaches Pack 01
    MatrixTrains\MT-Collett-HW-BE  TS Marketplace: GWR High Waist Collett Coaches Pack 01
    
    
    Consist dns GWR MB 0845 am Plymouth-Liverpool.bin
     Fragment GWR LOCO Hall shirtbutton.xml
     Fragment GWR COAC MB 0845 am Plymouth-Liverpool.xml
    
    08.45am Plymouth-Liverpool (Lime Street)/Manchester (London Road)

    Another typical mixed GWR/LMS North-to-West express, combining portions from Plymouth and Paignton for Liverpool Lime Street and Manchester London Road.
    The 08.45 am from Plymouth contained:
    • 2 coach GWR section for Birkenhead and Glasgow
    • 3 coach LMS section for Liverpool and from Newton Abbot
    • 2 coach GWR section from Paignton for Manchester
    • A restaurant car for Shrewsbury came on at Weston-super-Mare
    • Refs: MS/W 1934 14, GWR 1938-9 47, Becket 102, Beck 67

      Hall
      BCK Collett HW          E128	Plymouth-Birkenhead
      BCK Collett Sunshine    E153	Plymouth-Glasgow
      BTK LMS P3              1905    Plymouth-Liverpool
      CK  LMS P3              1925	Plymouth-Liverpool
      BTK LMS P3              1905	Plymouth-Liverpool
      TK  Collett Sunshine    C77     Paignton-Manchester
      BCK Collett Sunshine    E153	Paignton-Manchester
      
      09.05 am Kingswear-Bradford (‘Devonian’)
      During the thirties the northbound Devonian from Kingswear to Bradford appeared in various guises, this is how the train may well have appeared during the 1939 summer timetable.
      One of the few trains to the north that passed to the Midland at Bristol (mosty used the North & West route).

      Kingswear          dep	9.05 am
      Paignton           dep	9.15 am
      Torquay            dep	9.22 am
      Newton Abbot       arr	9.38 am
      Newton Abbot       dep	9.48 am
      Teignmouth         dep	9.59 am
      Dawlish            dep	10.8 am
      Exeter St. Davids  arr	10.25 am
      

      TS Requirements
      GordonMack\Mt_Colletts_LW       TS Marketplace: Collet Coaches Pack 01
      GordonMack\Mt_Colletts_LW-Set2  TS Marketplace: Collet Coaches Pack 02
      MatrixTrains\MT-Collett-HW-BE   TS Marketplace: GWR High Waist Collett Coaches Pack 01
      MatrixTrains\MT-LMS-P1-P2-LATE  TS Marketplace: LMS P1&P2 LMS Late Coach Pack
      MatrixTrains\Mt-P3-Set3         TS Marketplace: LMS P3 Coaches Pack 03
      UKTS 37543 for tender
      
      Consist dns GWR MB 0905 am Kingswear-Bradford.bin
       Fragment GWR LOCO Castle Collett tender SButt.xml
       Fragment GWR COAC MB 0905 am Kingswear-Bradford.xml
       Fragment GWR COAC MB 0905 am Kingswear-Bradford.xml
      
      
      9.05 a.m. Kingswear-Bradford (‘Devonian’)

      During the thirties the northbound ‘Devonian’ from Kingswear to Bradford appeared in many guises,
      this is how the train may well have appeared during the late thirties.
      It was certainly not a complicated working (as many others were), but a simple out-and-back working between Kingswear and Bradford,
      one of the very few services that transferred from the Western to the Midland side at Temple Meads.

      Becket 102, LMS/M 1939 20, Beck 120

      Castle
      BTK	Collett HW        D94   Kingswear-Bradford
      TK	Collett HW        C54   Kingswear-Bradford
      TO 	LMS P2           1807   Kingswear-Bradford
      K 	LMS P3           1912	Kingswear-Bradford
      FO 	LMS P3           1902	Kingswear-Bradford
      CK	Collett Sunshine E154   Kingswear-Bradford
      BTK	Collett Sunshine D124   Kingswear-Bradford
      
      10.30 am Paddington-Penzance ‘Cornish Riviera’


      Dep. Exeter 1.27pm
      Passing Newton Abbot 1.55pm.
      Consist dns GWR MB 1030 am Paddington-Penzance.bin
       Fragment GWR LOCO King RSC.xml
       Fragment GWR COAC MB 1030 am Paddington-Penzance.xml
      
      TS Requirements:

      Amazon\Dovetail GWR King Pack
      10.30 am Paddington-Penzance ‘Cornish Riviera’

      The ‘Cornish Riviera’ in its heyday, formed of the 1935 ‘Centenary’ coaches and presenting a very uniform appearance (quite unlike the GWR…).
      • 6 coaches for Penzance
      • 2 coachsfor St. Ives
      • 1 brake composite for Falmouth
      The formation of the Cornish Rivera was not a given a would be adjusted to suit demand.

      Refs: GWR 1938-9 4, Becket 59, Beck

      King
      BTK	Centenary		D120  Paddington-Penzance
      TK	Centenary		C69   Paddington-Penzance
      TK	Centenary		C69   Paddington-Penzance
      RTO	Centenary		H44   Paddington-Penzance
      RKF	Centenary		H43   Paddington-Penzance
      CK	Centenary		E149  Paddington-Penzance
      BTK	Centenary		D120  Paddington-Penzance
      TK	Centenary		C69   Paddington-St.Ives
      BCK	Centenary		E150  Paddington-St.Ives
      BCK	Centenary		E150  Paddington-Falmouth
      
      
      10.32 am Crewe-Paignton.

      Exeter St. Davids   dep	4.36	pm
      Teignmouth          dep	4.58	pm
      Newton Abbot        arr	5.07	pm
      Newton Abbot        dep	5.15	pm
      Torquay             arr	5.30	pm
      Paignton            arr	5.38	pm
      
      
      TS Requirements:
      DTG  CastlePack02  Castle\GWR_150\Engine\Castle_GWR_Wartime.xml
      DTG  CastlePack02  Castle\GWR_150\Tender\Castle Collett Tender.xml
      UKTS 37543 for tender
      GordonMack\Mt_Colletts_LW       TS Marketplace: Collet Coaches Pack 01
      MatrixTrains\MT-Collett-HW-BE   TS Marketplace: GWR High Waist Collett Coaches Pack 01
      MatrixTrains\MT-Collett-HW-BE-Set2  TS Marketplace: GWR High Waist Collett Coaches Pack 02
      MatrixTrains\MT-LMS-P1-P2-LATE  TS Marketplace: LMS P1&P2 LMS Late Coach Pack
      MatrixTrains\MT-Toplights Set1  TS Marketplace: GWR Toplight Coaches Pack 01
      
      
      Consist dns GWR MB 1032 am Crewe-Paignton.bin
       Fragment GWR LOCO Castle Collett tender SButt.xml
       Fragment GWR COAC MB 1032 am Crewe-Paignton.xml
      
      
      10.32 am Crewe-Paignton

      This was the combined 09.10 from Liverpool Lime Street (front, GWR coaches)/09.25 from Manchester London Road(rear, LMS & GWR coaches)
      that left Crewe at 10.32 am for Plymouth and Kingswear, with a GWR BCK from Birkenhead added to the Plymouth coaches
      and a LMS restaurant car from Crewe to Plymouth between the two sections.

      Refs: GWR 1938-9 43, LMS/W 1934 71, Becket 106

      Castle
      BCK Collett HW       E128	Birkenhead-Plymouth
      BTK Toplight         D56	Liverpool-Plymouth
      CK  Collett HW       E132	Liverpool-Plymouth
      BTK Collett HW       D95	Liverpool-Plymouth
      RC  LMS P2           1811	Crewe-Plymouth
      BCK Collett Sunshine E153	Liverpool-Kingswear
      CK  LMS P1           1694	Manchester-Kingswear
      BTK LMS P1           1696	Manchester-Kingswear
      CK  Collett HW       C54	Manchester-Kingswear
      BTK Collett HW       D95	Manchester-Kingswear
      
      11.25 am Cardiff-Paignton.

      Exeter St. Davids   dep.	02.24 pm
      Newton Abbot        arr.	03.01 pm
      Newton Abbot        dep.	03.07 pm
      Torquay             arr.	03.24 pm
      Paignton            arr.	03.31 pm
      
      
      
      TS Requirements:
      TS Marketplace: GWR Churchward Panelled Toplights Pack 03
      TS Marketplace: GWR Churchward Panelled Toplights Pack 04
      TS Marketplace: GWR High Waist Collett Coaches Pack 02
      TS Marketplace: GWR Toplight Coaches Pack 01
      TS Marketplace: GWR Toplight Coaches Pack 02
      
      Consist dns GWR MB 1125 am Cardiff-Paignton.bin
        MarcusB  QuickDrive  Fragment GWR LOCO Saint Era2 Smooth tender red.xml
        MarcusB  QuickDrive  Fragment GWR COAC MB 1125 am Cardiff-Paignton.xml
      
      
      Another typical GWR long distance train between Cardiff and Torbay, based on a standard 4-coach (BTK-CK-TK-BTK) set,
      with an extra third added at Bristol.
      The two GWR parcels vans picked up at Temple Meads had already travelled a long way from Carlisle and Leeds and were
      detached at Newton Abbot to be taken forward by the 4.20 pm to Plymouth.

      Refs: Becket 108, GWR 1938-9 61

      Saint
      BTK	Toplight         D56	Cardiff-Paignton
      CK	Collett HW       E132	Cardiff-Paignton
      TK	Toplight (early) C29	Cardiff-Paignton
      BTK	Collett HW       D95	Cardiff-Paignton
      TK	Toplight         C35	Bristol-Paignton
      BG	Toplight (early) K36	Bristol-Newton Abbot-Penzance
      BG	Toplight         K22	Bristol-Newton Abbot-Penzance
      
      11.25 am Kingswear-Paddington ‘Torbay Express’

      Kingswear           dep	11.25	am
      Paignton            dep	11.48	am
      Torquay             dep	12.00	pm
      Newton Abbot        dep	12.20	pm
      Exeter St Davids    pass
      


      TS Requirements:
      TS Marketplace: Collet Coaches Pack 01
      TS Marketplace: Collet Coaches Pack 02
      TS Marketplace: GWR High Waist Collett Coaches Pack 03
      
      Consist dns GWR MB 1125 am Kingswear-Paddington.bin MarcusB QuickDrive Fragment GWR LOCO King RSC.xml MarcusB QuickDrive Fragment GWR COAC MB 1125 am Kingswear-Paddington.xml

      11.25 am Kingswear-Paddington ‘Torbay Express’

      The premier daily service from Kingswear on its run up to Newton Abbot,
      where a through portion (BTK-CK-BCK) from Plymouth would be attached in front.
      The up Torbay Express did not stop at Exeter and ran non-stop from Newton Abbot to Paddington.

      Refs:

      Castle
      BTK	Collett Sunshine    D124	Kingswear-Paddington
      CK  Collett Sunshine	E162	Kingswear-Paddington
      RKF Collett HW          H39	Kingswear-Paddington
      RTO Collett HW          H40	Kingswear-Paddington
      CK  Collett Sunshine    E154	Kingswear-Paddington
      TK  Collett Sunshine    C77	Kingswear-Paddington
      BTK Collett Sunshine    D124 	Kingswear-Paddington
      
      12.00 pm Paddington-Kingswear ‘Torbay Express’

      Exeter St. Davids   dep.	2.59 p.m.
      Newton Abbot        pass
      Torquay             arr.	3.35 p.m.
      Paignton            arr.	3.46 p.m.
      Kingswear           arr.	4.09 p.m.
      


      TS Requirements:
      TS Marketplace: Collet Coaches Pack 01
      TS Marketplace: Collet Coaches Pack 02
      TS Marketplace: GWR High Waist Collett Coaches Pack 03
      DTG  CastlePack02  Castle\GWR_150\Engine\Castle_GWR_Wartime.xml
      DTG  CastlePack02  Castle\GWR_150\Tender\Castle Collett Tender.xml
      UKTS 37543 for tender
      
      
      Consist dns GWR MB 1200 pm Paddington-Kingswear.bin
        MarcusB  QuickDrive  Fragment GWR LOCO Castle Collett tender SButt.xml
        MarcusB  QuickDrive  Fragment GWR COAC MB 1200 pm Paddington-Kingswear.xml
      
      
      12.00 pm Paddington-Kingswear ‘Torbay Express’

      The premier daily service from Paddington to Torbay, equipped with the latest coaches, stopping only at Exeter.
      There three coaches for Penzance were detached, to be attached to the 10.40 Wolverhampton-Penzance.
      First stop from Exeter was Torquay, as the down Torbay Express (unusually) did not stop at Newton Abbot.

      Refs: Becket 60, GWR 1938-9 4

      Castle
      BTK Collett Sunshine    D124	Paddington-Kingswear
      TK  Collett Sunshine    C77	Paddington-Kingswear
      CK  Collett Sunshine    E154	Paddington-Kingswear
      RTO Collett HW          H40	Paddington-Kingswear
      RFK Collett HW          H39	Paddington-Kingswear
      CK  Collett Sunshine    E162	Paddington-Kingswear
      BTK Collett Sunshine    D124	Paddington-Kingswear
      
      12.00 p.m. Truro – York (1929 summer SO)

      Newton Abbot		arr 2.48 pm
      Newton Abbot 		dep 2.55 pm
      Exeter St. Davids	arr 3.21 pm
      Exeter St. Davids	dep 3.25 pm
      

      TS Requirements:
      12.00 p.m. Truro – York (1929 summer SO)

      Not many LNER carriages entered GWR territory beyond Bristol, but for a few years in the late twenties there were various through coaches from Penzance through Swindon and York to Scotland and back.
      In 1929 the LNER coaches were ex-NER (York), ex-NBR (Aberdeen), or ex-GC (Edinburgh), but here LNER Gresley teaks take their places on a busy Friday/Saturday in the thirties.

      Refs:GWR 1929 50

      Star
      TK	LNER			115	Penzance - York
      BCK	LNER			143	Penzance - Aberdeen
      BCK	Collett	HW		E 128	Penzance - Glasgow
      BG	LNER			113	Penzance - Edinburgh
      TK	Collett	HW		C 54	Truro – Oxford (SO)
      TK	Toplight		C 35	Truro – Oxford (SO)
      RC	Collett	Sunshine	H 57	Truro – Swindon (SO)
      TK	Toplight (early)		C 29	Truro – Swindon
      CK	Concertina		E 79	Truro – Swindon
      BTK	Concertina		D 43	Truro – Swindon
      


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